BAN STARK


I have updated this site to reflect my broad general concept of the Official Marilyn Manson BBS. I'm betting Stark will never allow me back under any circumstance. But thats ok, I dont go where Im not welcome. Im not gonna go and be disruptive and bother genuine fans or interfere with something of Mansons. Im also not gonna waste my time trying to better some project that belongs to stark and would only make him look good in the end. Not everything I posted there mattered, or was good, or was even nice. But I'd say I did have lots of moments where I was very entertaining and I did get alot of positive feedback about more then a few posts. I feel i was a positive member of that BBS, and in the end was just banned for pissing off stark in some private messages. I was actually thinking of leaving the BBS just before this happened anyway. Its not the only forum for fans on the net or in the real world, and it has always been far from the best. It just has the brand name and gets the most newbie traffic. Manson doesnt even post on the BBS anymore, and he has been home by his own computer for a year.

I used to report offensive posts on the old BBS directly to the webmaster, this guy Matt who works for fullerene. He would take imediate action, let me know of his response and thank me for my help. One day I think I sent him 3 different emails about problem posts. Matt even went further and discussed BBS upgrades and was very nice. From the begining Stark never acknowledged reported posts. when prodded about him not doing anything i was meet with hostility and called a tattler. the only time he ever directly responded to one of my reports on an offensive post was after i got him in trouble with Manson over it, and it was just to say i was wrong in reporting that particular post. He even went so far to complain about people reporting too many posts publically in an announcement to the BBS but didnt give a number to as "how many was too many" so everyone would be intimidated from reporting offensive posts. Stark to his credit, did ban one person whose posts I had reported. however this was after the person was given repeated warnings and it ended up seeming like he was more banned for defying Stark then anything else. There are still a couple people who repeatly post offensive bigoted crap who have been left alone to post at will.

So what am I to conclude? Stark seems to have more of a problem with people reporting offensive bigoted material, then he does with those who post it. He gets so pissed off by a couple private messages from me, he has to imediately ban me with out warning, yet takes his time over offensive material posted publically on a website that has his name on it. I dont buy the line of thought from Mansons management anymore that its just because Stark is slow to get things done. He acts fast when he wants to. So i can only conclude Stark really doesnt want to ban hate speech from the BBS or put any serious effort into understanding and defining the issue. Nor is he appreciative of help on the BBS or warrant any at this point. He can ban whoever for whatever on his website, thats his business and Mansons business. His website isnt the whole of the Marilyn Manson world.

I hearby Ban Stark from all my Marilyn Manson related websites and from anything to do with Manson that I have control of. . He doesnt reflect Marilyn Manson fans well or people in general. He is nothing more then an ill tempered, mean spirited, slow witted, bossy child. The problem was bigoted hate posts on the BBS before. Now I see the problem is Stark.

Im sure there are reasons Stark has been given the BBS. whatever it is, i dont care. Im just expressing myself and relating my perspective on the situation for anyone interested.







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